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	<title>Comments on: Washington Bridge Open to Bikes, Finally!</title>
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		<title>By: Mark Dieterich</title>
		<link>http://ribike.org/2009/04/30/washington-bridge-open-to-bikes-finally/comment-page-1#comment-17398</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Dieterich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 01:02:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Diane,

At the North end of the EBBP, take a left onto 1st Street.  This will T into Warren Ave.  Look directly across the road and you will see a ramp heading up the side of a hill.  This will lead you up to the Washington Bridge Pedestrian Walkway.

If you want to have some company during a ride into town, I&#039;d encourage you to join one of our &lt;a href=&quot;http://bikeprovidence.org/monday-bike-trains&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Monday Bike Trains&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Diane,</p>
<p>At the North end of the EBBP, take a left onto 1st Street.  This will T into Warren Ave.  Look directly across the road and you will see a ramp heading up the side of a hill.  This will lead you up to the Washington Bridge Pedestrian Walkway.</p>
<p>If you want to have some company during a ride into town, I&#8217;d encourage you to join one of our <a href="http://bikeprovidence.org/monday-bike-trains" rel="nofollow">Monday Bike Trains</a></p>
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		<title>By: Alan Barta</title>
		<link>http://ribike.org/2009/04/30/washington-bridge-open-to-bikes-finally/comment-page-1#comment-15776</link>
		<dc:creator>Alan Barta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 May 2009 21:33:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not to validate what I said but to get across the River, used the Washington Bridge sidewalk again for the 1st time today in a long time. 

Not only was it was pleasantly swept for a change - since it&#039;s now separate from the roadway, there are no broken bottles, debris and sand - you get a glimpse of what the new linear park will look like (on Ea. Prov. end). There&#039;s a big plaque there that I never had a chance to read before (even took a picture). Says the existing bridge dates from 1930&#039;s (not historic) but traces historic route of preexisting bridges that go back to 1700&#039;s, which apparently Washington himself (gadabout that he was) may have actually used. Whoever painted graffiti over this aging delicate bronze ought to be horsewhipped.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not to validate what I said but to get across the River, used the Washington Bridge sidewalk again for the 1st time today in a long time. </p>
<p>Not only was it was pleasantly swept for a change &#8211; since it&#8217;s now separate from the roadway, there are no broken bottles, debris and sand &#8211; you get a glimpse of what the new linear park will look like (on Ea. Prov. end). There&#8217;s a big plaque there that I never had a chance to read before (even took a picture). Says the existing bridge dates from 1930&#8217;s (not historic) but traces historic route of preexisting bridges that go back to 1700&#8217;s, which apparently Washington himself (gadabout that he was) may have actually used. Whoever painted graffiti over this aging delicate bronze ought to be horsewhipped.</p>
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		<title>By: Alan Barta</title>
		<link>http://ribike.org/2009/04/30/washington-bridge-open-to-bikes-finally/comment-page-1#comment-15765</link>
		<dc:creator>Alan Barta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 May 2009 11:11:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You  continue North on EBBP past Fort Hill down the hill until it ends. Take left onto 1st St, which leads you to the end of Warren Ave. There is a path directly across that snakes up onto Bridge.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You  continue North on EBBP past Fort Hill down the hill until it ends. Take left onto 1st St, which leads you to the end of Warren Ave. There is a path directly across that snakes up onto Bridge.</p>
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		<title>By: diane passantino</title>
		<link>http://ribike.org/2009/04/30/washington-bridge-open-to-bikes-finally/comment-page-1#comment-15730</link>
		<dc:creator>diane passantino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 May 2009 13:14:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How do I access entrance to the Washington Bridge bicycle way from east bay bike path.  thanks
Diane</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How do I access entrance to the Washington Bridge bicycle way from east bay bike path.  thanks<br />
Diane</p>
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		<title>By: Alan Barta</title>
		<link>http://ribike.org/2009/04/30/washington-bridge-open-to-bikes-finally/comment-page-1#comment-15662</link>
		<dc:creator>Alan Barta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 23:12:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are many alternatives to a lift bridge, especially if only cyclists and pedestrians cross. a) cable car, b) center pivot bridge swings close on demand, c) ferry, d) floating pontoon guided on submerged cable, e) tall arched, f) tunnel. Of course, there is no river traffic to speak of, perhaps an occasional kyack or skull. They left no more headroom for traffic into Waterplace than necessary for gondolas, either.

Any one of these would have cost a small fraction of the $15 million original projection, more like $30 million to complete. 

I advocate cable cars for all bridges as a bike-ped, especially the Newport, which otherwise would be difficult to fix a surface lane. Besides which, it would be a huge tourist attraction easily paying for the small investment and probably more reliable than existing intermittent ferry service.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are many alternatives to a lift bridge, especially if only cyclists and pedestrians cross. a) cable car, b) center pivot bridge swings close on demand, c) ferry, d) floating pontoon guided on submerged cable, e) tall arched, f) tunnel. Of course, there is no river traffic to speak of, perhaps an occasional kyack or skull. They left no more headroom for traffic into Waterplace than necessary for gondolas, either.</p>
<p>Any one of these would have cost a small fraction of the $15 million original projection, more like $30 million to complete. </p>
<p>I advocate cable cars for all bridges as a bike-ped, especially the Newport, which otherwise would be difficult to fix a surface lane. Besides which, it would be a huge tourist attraction easily paying for the small investment and probably more reliable than existing intermittent ferry service.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Dieterich</title>
		<link>http://ribike.org/2009/04/30/washington-bridge-open-to-bikes-finally/comment-page-1#comment-15641</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Dieterich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 19:19:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
Frankly, state could have saved millions by simply fixing the Bold Point RR bridge between East Providence and India Park. There is nothing at all historic about the Washington Bridge. I remember crossing the Red Bridge, which was RT-6, in my day. I’m not historic either.
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You know, I&#039;ve thought this same thing myself a number of times.  The only explanation I&#039;ve been able to come up with is that lowering the bridge would affect boat traffic.  I assume it would be expensive and a royal pain to keep operating it as a lift bridge.</description>
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Frankly, state could have saved millions by simply fixing the Bold Point RR bridge between East Providence and India Park. There is nothing at all historic about the Washington Bridge. I remember crossing the Red Bridge, which was RT-6, in my day. I’m not historic either.
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<p>You know, I&#8217;ve thought this same thing myself a number of times.  The only explanation I&#8217;ve been able to come up with is that lowering the bridge would affect boat traffic.  I assume it would be expensive and a royal pain to keep operating it as a lift bridge.</p>
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		<title>By: Alan Barta</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alan Barta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 16:32:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frankly, state could have saved millions by simply fixing the Bold Point RR bridge between East Providence and India Park. There is nothing at all historic about the Washington Bridge. I remember crossing the Red Bridge, which was RT-6, in my day. I&#039;m not historic either.

With all that granite, they could have made a dandy marina at Bold or India Point. Could have been a money maker for either city, both strapped for cash. They would have gotten more tourism value from a $500K bike-ped bridge as a $30 million one, and cyclists wouldn&#039;t have had to climb 3 stories to cross the Seekonk River.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frankly, state could have saved millions by simply fixing the Bold Point RR bridge between East Providence and India Park. There is nothing at all historic about the Washington Bridge. I remember crossing the Red Bridge, which was RT-6, in my day. I&#8217;m not historic either.</p>
<p>With all that granite, they could have made a dandy marina at Bold or India Point. Could have been a money maker for either city, both strapped for cash. They would have gotten more tourism value from a $500K bike-ped bridge as a $30 million one, and cyclists wouldn&#8217;t have had to climb 3 stories to cross the Seekonk River.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Dieterich</title>
		<link>http://ribike.org/2009/04/30/washington-bridge-open-to-bikes-finally/comment-page-1#comment-14841</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Dieterich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 12:29:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ken,

I share your frustration over the pace of this project.  The upshot, however, is that cyclists now have a voice in the process.  I&#039;ll be sitting on the Value Engineering study that is charged with reviewing the project.  If you have input about what priorities RIDOT should have for this project, please let me know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ken,</p>
<p>I share your frustration over the pace of this project.  The upshot, however, is that cyclists now have a voice in the process.  I&#8217;ll be sitting on the Value Engineering study that is charged with reviewing the project.  If you have input about what priorities RIDOT should have for this project, please let me know.</p>
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		<title>By: Ken</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 May 2009 16:04:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From RIDOT post...

&quot;RIDOT does not have a firm timetable for the commencement of the construction project to widen the bridge and the original path’s closure. The Department is reviewing the design for the new bikeway and linear park.&#039;

Pathetic!  I thought RIDOT said that two years ago.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From RIDOT post&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;RIDOT does not have a firm timetable for the commencement of the construction project to widen the bridge and the original path’s closure. The Department is reviewing the design for the new bikeway and linear park.&#8217;</p>
<p>Pathetic!  I thought RIDOT said that two years ago.</p>
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