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		<title>Comment on Boy Struck in Swansea by Mark Dieterich</title>
		<link>http://bikeprovidence.org/2010/03/09/boy-struck-in-swansea/comment-page-1#comment-33903</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Dieterich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 19:14:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
If bicyclists don’t act responsibly, the only result, from case history, is their own hurt.
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This is simply not true.  If the driver of the automobile and bus in this accident have any morals, which from reading the various articles they certainly seem to, then they have both been wounded by this incident.  No, they aren&#039;t physically hurt, but physical damage is not the only question here.  Someone&#039;s life, if they are a truly caring individual, can be ruined by hurting or killing someone else, even if it was an accident.

Yes cyclists are going to loose any sort of physical engagement, but this doesn&#039;t remove all responsibility for how we act.</description>
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If bicyclists don’t act responsibly, the only result, from case history, is their own hurt.
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<p>This is simply not true.  If the driver of the automobile and bus in this accident have any morals, which from reading the various articles they certainly seem to, then they have both been wounded by this incident.  No, they aren&#8217;t physically hurt, but physical damage is not the only question here.  Someone&#8217;s life, if they are a truly caring individual, can be ruined by hurting or killing someone else, even if it was an accident.</p>
<p>Yes cyclists are going to loose any sort of physical engagement, but this doesn&#8217;t remove all responsibility for how we act.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Boy Struck in Swansea by Labann</title>
		<link>http://bikeprovidence.org/2010/03/09/boy-struck-in-swansea/comment-page-1#comment-33902</link>
		<dc:creator>Labann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 18:54:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If bicyclists don&#039;t act responsibly, the only result, from case history, is their own hurt. They can&#039;t be effectively controlled, punished, ticketed. Therefore, they can do whatever they want, don&#039;t require ANY TRAINING WHATEVER, and get off their backs, why don&#039;t you?

Control and train your steel slinging cagers. Fines? Scale them relative to net worth. Revoke and suspend licenses of repeat offenders. Cameras and computers? They are already at a lot of inner city intersections, but it&#039;s all to raise $4 million a year in revenue, which hardly pays for installation. The only answer is police in neighborhoods knowing neighborhood DUIs, keeping tabs, watching out. That and better traffic planning, which is generally atrocious in Newport and Providence Counties, I&#039;m sorry to say, even since they&#039;ve been put on notice by FHWA for over a decade. Who&#039;s the scofflaw?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If bicyclists don&#8217;t act responsibly, the only result, from case history, is their own hurt. They can&#8217;t be effectively controlled, punished, ticketed. Therefore, they can do whatever they want, don&#8217;t require ANY TRAINING WHATEVER, and get off their backs, why don&#8217;t you?</p>
<p>Control and train your steel slinging cagers. Fines? Scale them relative to net worth. Revoke and suspend licenses of repeat offenders. Cameras and computers? They are already at a lot of inner city intersections, but it&#8217;s all to raise $4 million a year in revenue, which hardly pays for installation. The only answer is police in neighborhoods knowing neighborhood DUIs, keeping tabs, watching out. That and better traffic planning, which is generally atrocious in Newport and Providence Counties, I&#8217;m sorry to say, even since they&#8217;ve been put on notice by FHWA for over a decade. Who&#8217;s the scofflaw?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Boy Struck in Swansea by Mark Dieterich</title>
		<link>http://bikeprovidence.org/2010/03/09/boy-struck-in-swansea/comment-page-1#comment-33901</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Dieterich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 17:46:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m all for laying blame at a motorists feet when it&#039;s justified, but from what I&#039;ve read, I don&#039;t think a) the motorist was driving irresponsibly or b) there is much they could have done.  

We cyclists also need to take responsibility for our actions.  Accidents will happen, motorists will make mistakes, it&#039;s our responsibility to try and anticipate these actions and ride safely.  This is a truly sad story, but it sounds like the teen just blew into a roadway and was wearing headphones, so he was likely distracted and most likely couldn&#039;t hear anything.

I&#039;m in agreement with you re: the speed people drive around here.  What I don&#039;t understand is why motorists aren&#039;t in an uproar over annual automobile related deaths, much of which could likely be tracked back to speed, running red lights, aggressive driving, etc.  Personally, I&#039;m in favor of red light cameras and automated speed ticketing devices.  I truly believe the only way to change people&#039;s driving behaviors, when it comes to these two activities, is to hurt them in the pocket book.  I don&#039;t think we have enough police, nor do I think it is a good use of their time, to catch speeders; computers can do just as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m all for laying blame at a motorists feet when it&#8217;s justified, but from what I&#8217;ve read, I don&#8217;t think a) the motorist was driving irresponsibly or b) there is much they could have done.  </p>
<p>We cyclists also need to take responsibility for our actions.  Accidents will happen, motorists will make mistakes, it&#8217;s our responsibility to try and anticipate these actions and ride safely.  This is a truly sad story, but it sounds like the teen just blew into a roadway and was wearing headphones, so he was likely distracted and most likely couldn&#8217;t hear anything.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m in agreement with you re: the speed people drive around here.  What I don&#8217;t understand is why motorists aren&#8217;t in an uproar over annual automobile related deaths, much of which could likely be tracked back to speed, running red lights, aggressive driving, etc.  Personally, I&#8217;m in favor of red light cameras and automated speed ticketing devices.  I truly believe the only way to change people&#8217;s driving behaviors, when it comes to these two activities, is to hurt them in the pocket book.  I don&#8217;t think we have enough police, nor do I think it is a good use of their time, to catch speeders; computers can do just as well.</p>
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		<title>Comment on National Bike Summit &#8211; Google Announces Bike Routing by Labann</title>
		<link>http://bikeprovidence.org/2010/03/10/national-bike-summit/comment-page-1#comment-33892</link>
		<dc:creator>Labann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 12:59:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To get to Newport during the week (only, no weekends), a rack-n-ride bus picks you up at the park-n-lock stop on Route 1A at Rt. 138 and leaves you at Town Centre, Newport. Make sure you have a couple dollars in change, or forget it. The only alternative is to ride over the Mt. Hope Bridge in Bristol (which is very bumpy, narow and unpleasant) then choose one of several equally dangerous routes to your destination. There are some circuitous ways to thread the island&#039;s back roads including Burma and Middle Rd. All of them are somewhat hilly. 

I&#039;ve routed many rides for people using Google set to &quot;walking map&quot;, then tailor, then email to them. I know from an encyclopedic knowledge of RI where every dog and hill is. I&#039;ve always said, &quot;Climbing builds, coasting thrills.&quot; Hills do slow your ride, but fast smelly traffic clogs flats.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To get to Newport during the week (only, no weekends), a rack-n-ride bus picks you up at the park-n-lock stop on Route 1A at Rt. 138 and leaves you at Town Centre, Newport. Make sure you have a couple dollars in change, or forget it. The only alternative is to ride over the Mt. Hope Bridge in Bristol (which is very bumpy, narow and unpleasant) then choose one of several equally dangerous routes to your destination. There are some circuitous ways to thread the island&#8217;s back roads including Burma and Middle Rd. All of them are somewhat hilly. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve routed many rides for people using Google set to &#8220;walking map&#8221;, then tailor, then email to them. I know from an encyclopedic knowledge of RI where every dog and hill is. I&#8217;ve always said, &#8220;Climbing builds, coasting thrills.&#8221; Hills do slow your ride, but fast smelly traffic clogs flats.</p>
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		<title>Comment on National Bike Summit &#8211; Google Announces Bike Routing by James</title>
		<link>http://bikeprovidence.org/2010/03/10/national-bike-summit/comment-page-1#comment-33873</link>
		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 01:25:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I tried out the bicycle directions on google maps this afternoon, to see how it would work.  I had to go from Kennedy Plaza to the 1300 block of Mineral Springs Ave in NP. I had only been there once before, and the route I picked on my own worked pretty well: mostly on Charles St., but with a bit of a big up hill going up Mineral Springs. This afternoon, I went with google&#039;s suggestion and took Douglas Ave most of the way. Douglas is a little more narrow than Charles, but not too bad. The best part was at the end - I still had to go up the hill, of course, but Googlemaps directed me to back streets for that, and this route was less steep as well.

I&#039;ve been trying it out some more this evening, entering a few possible trips into the directions finder. It seems to be handling it okay. I hope to bike to Jamestown and/or Newport one of these days, so I tried entering that. Of course it directed me over the Newport bridge, which I&#039;m pretty sure is forbidden for cyclists. (Jamestown Bridge is as well, right?). I would have been shocked if the step by step directions had said something like, &quot;Dismount and wait for the XX bus to take over the bridge&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I tried out the bicycle directions on google maps this afternoon, to see how it would work.  I had to go from Kennedy Plaza to the 1300 block of Mineral Springs Ave in NP. I had only been there once before, and the route I picked on my own worked pretty well: mostly on Charles St., but with a bit of a big up hill going up Mineral Springs. This afternoon, I went with google&#8217;s suggestion and took Douglas Ave most of the way. Douglas is a little more narrow than Charles, but not too bad. The best part was at the end &#8211; I still had to go up the hill, of course, but Googlemaps directed me to back streets for that, and this route was less steep as well.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been trying it out some more this evening, entering a few possible trips into the directions finder. It seems to be handling it okay. I hope to bike to Jamestown and/or Newport one of these days, so I tried entering that. Of course it directed me over the Newport bridge, which I&#8217;m pretty sure is forbidden for cyclists. (Jamestown Bridge is as well, right?). I would have been shocked if the step by step directions had said something like, &#8220;Dismount and wait for the XX bus to take over the bridge&#8221;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Boy Struck in Swansea by Labann</title>
		<link>http://bikeprovidence.org/2010/03/09/boy-struck-in-swansea/comment-page-1#comment-33863</link>
		<dc:creator>Labann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 21:52:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m out there almost every day. I guarantee that both motorists, like about 80%, were driving too fast. They are supposed to ANTICIPATE dogs, kids, joggers, road workers at any time. Why is it that motorists deny any blame? You should be educating THEM. Highway speeds end on the exit ramps, folks. It&#039;s 25 mph MAX unless otherwise posted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m out there almost every day. I guarantee that both motorists, like about 80%, were driving too fast. They are supposed to ANTICIPATE dogs, kids, joggers, road workers at any time. Why is it that motorists deny any blame? You should be educating THEM. Highway speeds end on the exit ramps, folks. It&#8217;s 25 mph MAX unless otherwise posted.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Boy Struck in Swansea by Mark Dieterich</title>
		<link>http://bikeprovidence.org/2010/03/09/boy-struck-in-swansea/comment-page-1#comment-33861</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Dieterich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 20:46:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is truly sad.  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.wbz.com/topnews/Teen-seriously-hurt-in-bicycle-crash-in-Swansea/6535739&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;WBZ news&lt;/a&gt; is reporting that
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Police and witnesses say the 15-year old rode his bike into oncoming traffic on Bark Street in Swansea.

Police say drivers never saw him coming and some witnesses have told police he was wearing headphones at the time.

A friend of the victim, Matthew Sousa, tells WBZ-TV he was looking out the window and saw his friend coming down the street. &quot;He wasn&#039;t going too fast. He could have stopped, but he didn&#039;t look both ways.&quot; 

Police say the teen hit a car, flew over and hit the windshield, then was propelled into the path of an oncoming school bus that struck him as well.

Deputy police Chief Robert Furtado says drivers could not have reacted quickly enough.

The driver of the car, Grace Santos, is described as an elderly woman who was so distraught she had to be hospitalized as well.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Note to all us parents out there... make sure we spend time working with our kids, even our older kids, and make sure they know how to ride safely and responsibly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is truly sad.  <a href="http://www.wbz.com/topnews/Teen-seriously-hurt-in-bicycle-crash-in-Swansea/6535739" rel="nofollow">WBZ news</a> is reporting that</p>
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Police and witnesses say the 15-year old rode his bike into oncoming traffic on Bark Street in Swansea.</p>
<p>Police say drivers never saw him coming and some witnesses have told police he was wearing headphones at the time.</p>
<p>A friend of the victim, Matthew Sousa, tells WBZ-TV he was looking out the window and saw his friend coming down the street. &#8220;He wasn&#8217;t going too fast. He could have stopped, but he didn&#8217;t look both ways.&#8221; </p>
<p>Police say the teen hit a car, flew over and hit the windshield, then was propelled into the path of an oncoming school bus that struck him as well.</p>
<p>Deputy police Chief Robert Furtado says drivers could not have reacted quickly enough.</p>
<p>The driver of the car, Grace Santos, is described as an elderly woman who was so distraught she had to be hospitalized as well.
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<p>Note to all us parents out there&#8230; make sure we spend time working with our kids, even our older kids, and make sure they know how to ride safely and responsibly.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Commuter&#8217;s Conundrum #1 by Durishin</title>
		<link>http://bikeprovidence.org/2010/03/01/commuters-conundrum-1/comment-page-1#comment-33857</link>
		<dc:creator>Durishin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 20:00:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@joe,

The law for intersections is to take the rightmost lane going in your direction.  In this case, that would be the left lane.</description>
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<p>The law for intersections is to take the rightmost lane going in your direction.  In this case, that would be the left lane.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Commuter&#8217;s Conundrum #1 by Labann</title>
		<link>http://bikeprovidence.org/2010/03/01/commuters-conundrum-1/comment-page-1#comment-33854</link>
		<dc:creator>Labann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 19:00:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joe: 
The law says stay in right 1/3 of travel lane... unless conditions don&#039;t warrant staying there, it&#039;s otherwise occupied, or you&#039;re passing or turning left, which is to say, you have FULL use of the entire road at any given moment. You&#039;re already BANNED from half the roads: highways, limited access, and tacit bans. The same laws say that motorists must avoid running over pedestrians and YOU. Too bad what motorists think. Just because they pay thousands a year for the dubious privilege of waiting in gridlock is not your concern. I pay even more in the high cost of living that motoring inflicts on me: cancer, heart disease, insurances, trillion/year in fed/state revenues spent on roads. Motorists are the problem, period.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe:<br />
The law says stay in right 1/3 of travel lane&#8230; unless conditions don&#8217;t warrant staying there, it&#8217;s otherwise occupied, or you&#8217;re passing or turning left, which is to say, you have FULL use of the entire road at any given moment. You&#8217;re already BANNED from half the roads: highways, limited access, and tacit bans. The same laws say that motorists must avoid running over pedestrians and YOU. Too bad what motorists think. Just because they pay thousands a year for the dubious privilege of waiting in gridlock is not your concern. I pay even more in the high cost of living that motoring inflicts on me: cancer, heart disease, insurances, trillion/year in fed/state revenues spent on roads. Motorists are the problem, period.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Commuter&#8217;s Conundrum #1 by joe</title>
		<link>http://bikeprovidence.org/2010/03/01/commuters-conundrum-1/comment-page-1#comment-33853</link>
		<dc:creator>joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 18:24:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On a one way street staying to the left is WRONG.  When I am driving a car it makes me mad as hell when bicyclist don&#039;t follow the rules.  It makes it harder when I am cycling because car drivers take out their anger at all of us.  Stay to the right, give yourself distance to the parked cars, make sure you are looking ahead to see if any one is in their car pulling out or opening their door.  Be careful and obey the rules.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On a one way street staying to the left is WRONG.  When I am driving a car it makes me mad as hell when bicyclist don&#8217;t follow the rules.  It makes it harder when I am cycling because car drivers take out their anger at all of us.  Stay to the right, give yourself distance to the parked cars, make sure you are looking ahead to see if any one is in their car pulling out or opening their door.  Be careful and obey the rules.</p>
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